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Zuko confronts Katara about her distrustful disposition toward him and finds out that Katara is taking her anger about her mother’s death out on him. He then decides to help Katara find the Fire Nation soldier responsible for killing her mother. They find out that her mother said she was the last Waterbender to protect the real last Waterbender of the Southern Water Tribe: her daughter Katara. Katara finds herself unable to kill the man when she finally confronts him. After returning, Aang is proud of her for not seeking her revenge, and Katara finally forgives Zuko of his past betrayal in the Ba Sing Se catacombs.
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someone:
Hmmn…I don’t like the quality…it’s really fuzzy and it hurts my ears. but at least i can watch it and the parental controls dont block it…oh well
Posted on April 7th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
chuckers:
hey! thanks for uploading this episode of avatar. it’s the one i missed!
one of my favorites now!
keep it up guys! it’s really great of you to have the shrine and all!
Posted on April 8th, 2009 at 5:13 am
zukoloova:
i don’t want katara to fall in love with zuko.
katara + aang =4eva
Posted on August 30th, 2009 at 8:16 am
kat:
Katara and Zuko forever!!!!!!!
Posted on September 4th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
cookehs:
mmm… cookehs… oh wait… dis is ’bout the vid. dammit… i wish katara and zuko was together D’: but oh well. for some reason… i just feel disturbed, when aang and katara uhm… erh…. uhh… erhm… kiss O.O”
Posted on September 17th, 2009 at 4:58 am
bambamnicks:
Katara and Zuko should soooo be together, i thought that even when avatar first started! But i do feel sorry for May, she got arrested for helping him and now hes prob gna fall in love with someone else lol
Posted on September 17th, 2009 at 11:21 am
flamio:
as if, katara is for aang… period
Posted on September 19th, 2009 at 6:23 am
miko:
“so why don’t you take my mother, that would be fair” LOL :))
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 8:30 am
LightningH7:
wouldn’t it be really ironic if Jet WAS still alive, and he joined team Avatar? Do you think he’d try to stop Katara, or just go with it?
Posted on October 11th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Katara141:
ZUTARA NINJAZ!!!
Posted on October 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Dith:
I think Katara is not the good partner for Aang and Zuko. Katara is so, I-wanna-be-the-mum person -.-. I actually think that Toph and Zuko are a pretty couple, only Toph needs to be a little taller.
And Aang fits with one of those girls who he met in the earlier episode!
Posted on October 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
sarah gambill:
mai is not one of team avatar she`s dangerous more then that she cast a spell on zuko i wish she will get kicked out of the fire nation palace right now and zuko will just forget it about mai right now he could just be with katara aang is too young for a womans age zuko doesnt need mai anymore
Posted on October 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Zaphod Beeblebrox:
The only thing that the term ”Zutara” would apply to is a pair of professional assasins… But as the saying goes: Opposites attract.
Posted on October 31st, 2009 at 7:10 pm
isabelle:
i think that sokka should be together with tai-lee or toph, but at the same time i like suki.
Posted on November 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
hannah:
niceeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted on November 30th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
hannah:
i love this wbsite i get on everyday! its so cool iswear i dont know what id do with uot it. i think id haave a heart attak! lol
Posted on November 30th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
ray:
omg! so would i! i cannot live without this website its amazing!
Posted on December 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Peace:
I don’t have the time to get into an in-depth explanation of
why Zutara is the most rational pairing because it is too complicated and multi-faceted to summarize. What is horrible is how this ship and perspective is misportayed and trashed by
Kataangers/Maikoans when they don’t have the depth of mind and character, open-mindedness, capacity for insight, life
experience, or psychological understanding to understand it and
they created an unfounded hatred that is so vile and wrong
because Zutara is such a good, deep, complex, and beautiful
coupling. The canon couplings ironically created a block/barrier
from understanding the characters and themes while making no
use of the symbolism. I would say 95% of Kataang/Maiko do not
understand , respect, or empathize with Zuko’s life, personality,
and redemptive arc which is why they do not understand Zutara.
For the people who were analyzing Zuko profoundly, it was the most logical to pair him with Katara because you see the most
powerful parallels and similarities between them which also
flows beautifully when the symbolism and themes of Avatar. It
was too complex for most children to understand but there was
no reason for such a blind and brutal bandwagon mentality to
be launched against Zutara. Zuko and Katara would have balanced each other out. They have the best capacity for challenging, deepening, understanding each other and fulfilling
each other needs, desires, and voids. What unites them is stronger than what divides them. In fact what divides them by the end of the story is purely superifical and external because the internal barriers are removed once Zuko understands his life, humanity, and what the right side was by dynamically overcoming years of evil brainwashing from the fire nation and emotional abuse that caused him to make those mistakes. Zuko and Katara also have the greatest access to pain and empathy. You see similarities in their personalities, pain, struggles, reactions, attitudes, and they are the most alike of the characters once you forgive and overcome the prejudice regarding Zuko’s past. People
don’t realize how extraordinary Zuko was to even realize what the right side and right perspective was despite his upbringing.
Zutara was epic, unique, and inspirational. What was intriguing is how they seem like opposites in the beginning but you discover that their inner character, motivations, and basic natures are the most alike and they seem made for each other.
That was just such a light summary of why I ship Zutara.
It would take a whole book to discuss all of the aspects, reasons,
and layers behind why I chose to ship it. It would also take a
whole essay to explain why I did not like Kataang/Maiko and
why it conflicted with the characters and essence of the show
and why Zutara would have enhanced it. The choice of Kataang/
Maiko had a destructive mental influence and created such ignorance and foul hatred that the show was preaching against.
It did not even realize how wrong of a choice Kataang/Maiko was until the I analyzed all of the commentary. There was a lack of chemistry and an imbalanced dynamic between Aang & Katara mentally, physically, spiritually, and emotionally. You also don’t
turn the big sister-mother-caretaker-teacher figure into the love interest especially since she didn’t reciprocate his puppy-dog
obsessive infatuation and inappropriate infatuation which he immaturely labeled as true love until the very end because it was what the main protagonist wanted. You don’t pair off a kid with a
teenager who had the spirit of a woman together. It was also about nuturing his needs, not hers. There were so many ways in which Katara and Aang would not click well romantically. They
were better off as friends and as a family-unit. There were many reasons I didn’t like Kataang. I just lightly addressed a few of
them. Katara need somebody who was far more dynamic,
complex, intense, mature, with a far wider emotional and
psychological spectrum like Zuko.
Maiko, don’t even get me started on it. She was probably the least compatible with Zuko out of all of the main
female characters. Even Toph, Suki, Jin, Song, and Ty Lee were
more compatible than Mai. In fact, I think even Aang and Sokka
were more compatible with Zuko than Mai. Mai was a nihilist
and depressive sociopath who reflected no deeper understanding of the evils of the fire nation, showed NO concern or understanding of Zuko’s then-internal conflict, struggles, pain,
and true character/motivations. Even when they were on the same side on the surface, she did not treat him with respect and
blew him off when he tried to communicate and confide with her.
It was shallow and dysfunctional, yet he goes back to her? She
saved him but it was not for deep reasons. Kataang/ Maiko also felt unnatural and contrived…they lacked even a decent amount
of chemistry. Maiko made it seem as if Zuko’s reformation and
evolution did not matter. It was a consolation ship to pair Zuko off with somebody to remove the threat of a plausible hookup with
Katara. The canon couples only made sense to the most superficial who were also the most spiteful about their ships.
I empathized with the boy Zuko was, fell in love with the
man he had become at the end of his journey, and was intrigued by the possibly of how he would evolve and shape the world in the future. I wanted him to find true love, happiness, peace,
and fufillment with the character who deserved him the most,
Katara. Not for him to settle with a dark and depressive character who doesn’t understand him and who does not care about the world. I identified the most with Katara and wanted her to end up with her passionate equal, the yang to her ying. Not to end up with her younger best friend who was a like a little brother to
her out of obligation and misdirected unhealthy emotions.
Posted on December 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Team Toph:
Toph and Zuko or Toph and Sokka make a cute couple! Toph’s the best character on the show!
And Mai and Zuko don’t make a good couple even though I like Mai. When she said “Just take the bear.” I ROFL’d.
Posted on December 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Willthack14:
Zuko and Katara do make the most sense together, for reasons of age, personality type, etc. But everybody knows she will be with Aang, it has always been inevitable. This is, despite how awesome it could have been, essentially a kids show. The hero has to eventually get the girl he’s been aiming for the whole damn series. But the Burning Rock Mai incident pretty much confirmed that us poor Zutara shipper were screwed, and the sixteen year old hottie will end up with the thirteen year old bald kid. Naturally.
Posted on December 9th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Willthack14:
What annoys me is the inconsistencies of Zuko’s character’s in the late episodes. He is laid back, practically let’s the other people in Aang’s walk all over him. He’s too smiley. But with the Southern Raiders episode, he seems to sort of go into remission with his more savage qualities. They made him too nice in the new episodes. You don’t go from obsessive, murderous, egotistical nut job to wuss in a span of a few weeks unless you have been severely tortured for the whole period of that time. They have his personality right in this one, but not so much in 13-15. But at least they got it right in Sozen’s Comet.
Posted on December 10th, 2009 at 2:02 am
Avatarisgreat:
LOL i wish sokka would be with toph idk she seems to like him and they look good together
Posted on December 10th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
aaCiiiDDxXxxxX:
ZUTARA FOREVER!! ^_^ Psssh Kataang doesn’t work out. Seriously. >_>
Posted on December 15th, 2009 at 3:08 am
pyromaniac:
Hey Willthack14
It is “Sozin” not “Sozen”
And Katara is 14 not 16
Posted on December 19th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Chipmunk:
Kitara is not 16, she is 14.
Aang is 12
Toph is 12
Sokka is 15
Azula is 15
Zukko is 16….
I’m not sure how old Mai and Ty Lee are, I dont think Wikipedia specified….
I love this episode, Katara displayed some SERIOUS power in this one…she handled up…She gonna be on my team…
Posted on December 26th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Elise:
Katara and Zuko?!?!?!? EW NO!!!! katara and aang totally
and toph would be cute wit sokka….but i think hes better with suki
Posted on January 1st, 2010 at 12:53 am
Elise:
the blood bending still freaks me out *shudders*
Posted on January 1st, 2010 at 12:54 am
Aaron:
i love the avatar there soo needs to be a book 4
Posted on January 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Bermuda:
Thank you Peace for your intelligent post. You explained Zutara well and why Maiko is so dysfunctional. I can’t believe somebody said “Ew” in regards to Zutara, that was immature and uncalled for. They looked beautiful together and their dynamic balanced not only each other in terms of the character development but displayed the themes of the story. Of course, this page is not the right place for a deep discussion. I am not suprised Kataang kids
are posting without providing any rationale. Kataang grossed me out and offended me for how Katara was treated like a prize for the hero. I knew the setup but it was not right on so many levels and I don’t think it was inevitable. Zuko was just as much ( I felt even more so) a hero than Aang. It is not just about getting the girl in the end, but ending up with the right person that can fufill your needs and make you happy.
Maiko made no sense for anybody who understood Zuko on an emotional and psychological level. It degraded Zuko in the worst way. Then again most of Kataang/Maiko supporters don’t seem to understand Zuko and reject issues to affirm their ships. Kataang and the ex deux machina was my least favorite parts of the show,
it really ruined the experience. I loved the Southern Raiders because it deals with moral relativism and it displays how the canon romances don’t work. Getting preachy without empathy or not having an adult understanding of raw human emotion was a huge flaw of Aangs. I can’t stand the Zuko bashing, but it is no suprise considering it is being mostly visited by Kataangers/Maiko who can’t understand Zuko. Zuko was the most extraordinary hero and there was nothing “wussy” about him or his life. The reasoning behind calling him a wuss is so backwards and superficial. It was Aang, not Zuko who had the most inconsistencies. Zuko felt guilty over his past and was more mild-mannered to gain more acceptance with the Gaang. He had to prove his honor, goodness, and loyalty…instead of imposing himself on him. He was forced to be aggressive earlier on and you don’t seem to get how his background, family, etc shaped his life and personality. He was never murderous nor egotistical. He was
never a nutjob and there was a motive/psychology behind his behavior. Azula was the obsessive, murderous, egotistical nutjob
and Zuko never wussed out on anything. My number one issue with Kataang/Maiko is how those ill-suited romance setups got in the way from many fans, especially children, from understanding the depth and complexity behind Zuko and Katara. I wish more people read Peace’s post and understand the truth behind it.
For critical thinkers who recognized the flaws, inconsistencies of the series, especially with the “romance” if you can’t even call it that..visit the page The Cake was a lie, an ATLA venting community for more intelligent and in-depth discussion. You would think Peace’s response would incite more intelligent posts, not the other way around.
Posted on January 11th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Tasha::
I think Zuko and Katara are cute together but it wouldn’t be right. I love Katara and Aang they’re cute together even though Aang is shorter than her. I hate Mai I don’t think her and Zuko should stay together. I like Zuko with someone else maybe the girl from the episode Tales of Ba Sing Se.
Posted on January 13th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Peace:
A friend of mine posted a message here a few days ago. It
was deleted and that is not fair. You need to restore her post.
You can’t just impose your kataang bias on other people’s statements especially when she provided an intelligent rebuttal to other people’s posts. If you have integrity, you will restore her posts. Otherwise, people will stop posting when they become aware of the unfairness and editing.
Posted on January 13th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
jaynelle:
hehehehe..
how about
aang and zuko they are compatible…how sweet…hehehe
Posted on January 20th, 2010 at 3:16 am
Leela:
oh why oh why cant sokka see that
toph is so much more assum than suki
sokka and toph would make the cutest
couple ever !!!!!!!
Posted on January 22nd, 2010 at 2:34 am
wahaha!:
the best couple will be Kataapa & Zukomomo nyahahaha!
Posted on January 25th, 2010 at 11:16 am
rose:
People can say ew about whatever they please. I don’t believe it was uncalled for at all. It was an expression of their beliefs.
I don’t believe in Katara being with Zuko. I don’t like Katara at all. I’d give some reasons why, but I really don’t want to type out a whole essay. I don’t care enough too.
I think this show is full of great characters and a lot of them are trying to find out who they really are which makes for great character development and plot development.
My favorite characters are probably Aang, Zuko, Iroh, and Toph.
He’s hilarious. I also like Appa and Momo.
Sokka is a good character too
I don’t like Katara, even though there aren’t many reasons not to like her. I don’t like Azula but I think she’s hilarious. I don’t like Mei even though she’s great too.
Wow. I’m surprised I wrote this much. lol XD
Posted on February 6th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
Zanth:
I think the most amusing thing about ALL these comments is how much thought people have put into it. I almost feel like I’m reading a bunch of emo vampire or angsty werewolf side choosing stuff here (Twilight stuff for those not getting “my take” on it).
To surmise….it’s a freakin cartoon…these characters aren’t real. As someone else said, they could pair Kataara and Apa and Zuko and Momo together for all it matters! The show is great for its lessons and personally, I love the martial arts behind it all.
I will say, however, that Aang IS 112…so he’s actually maybe a little too OLD for Kataara, lol…And his monk qualities mixed with his desire to still be a kid make him seem more superficial then he truly is.
Posted on February 7th, 2010 at 12:04 am
gameover:
i like ty lee his cute but i dont like may hes boooooring.
Posted on February 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
avatar fan:
cool episode every1 rockss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!XD
Posted on February 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
aesara:
Have to admit, I’m very confused at some people’s obsessive need to pair characters. Guess what: in real life there are people who might go their whole lives without a romantic relationship and that does not automatically mean they are unhappy or somehow unfulfilled.
I’m not going to bash anyone’s pairing, but what I will say is that there are canon pairings in the series. There is nothing wrong with liking a non-canon pairing, but those people who do should not simply assume that those who like the canon pairings are immature or do not understand the characters. The people who understand the characters best are the people who created them, if we really want to get into that. Nobody on here other than one of the Avatar creators should go around telling everyone how is right and is wrong. If there’s a pairing you like, give your reasons. You don’t need to fight each other over something so trivial as a pairing which is not even in existence in a FICTIONAL work.
Posted on February 22nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
aesara:
-insert pairing here- is right and -insert pairing here- is wrong*
Posted on February 22nd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
avatar:
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean
Posted on February 25th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
the doctor:
ok first off i just wanna say wow to the huge post about who should be with who lol…in my opion yes zuko has changed and he deserves to be with someone that can understand wat he went through but if you remember the episode where about the ember island tahat was about azula and zuko and mai and ty lee it tells you about all their past and why they are the way they are including mai as to why she is so unemotional its because of how she was brought up…as for aang and katara yes katara acts motherly to aang but thats not necessarliy a bad thing…to have some that just generally cares about your well being like that i believe that they have more in common than you guys show…i mean aang lost his entire tribe in a fire nation raid well he was frozen in the ice…he knows what the pain of loss is and katara understands that….they look good together and they protray a good chemistry especially in the episode of a cave between to lovers or something like that in the first season..anyways im done writing lol
Posted on March 1st, 2010 at 7:01 pm
sam KBKASSDa:
ok im here on one mission only to state the fact that aang is not to young for katara shes to young for him cuz remember that aang is 113 years old and kataras 15 years old and yes they do make a great couple and im not seeing how toph and aang could be together because by the looks of it seems like toph cant really stand aang that much. SO REMEMBER PEOPLE KATARAS NOT TO OLD FOR AANG HES 113 YEARS OLD AND SHES FIFTEEN STOP SAYING HES TOO YOUNG ITS BUGGING THE HELL OUT OF ME. AND YES THEY SHOULD MAKE A BOOK 4 AIR.
AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AT THE END OF BOOK 2 EARTH WHEN AANG GOT SHOT WITH LIGHTNING HE DIED DIDNT HE BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF BOOK 3 FIRE HE SAID I WAS GONE AND KATARA BROUGHT HIM BACK SO DOESNT THAT MEAN THERES GONNA BE ANOTHER AVATAR CUZ WHEN ROKU DIED AANG WAS BORN SO THERES ANOTHER AVATAR THAT WAS BORN IN THE WATER TRIBE SO THERES TWO AVATARS. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER SERIES PEOPLE.
Posted on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
ilove avatar:
Idont know…. katara & zukko looks REALLY cute for each other but den who would aang be with? iguess dats y its paired da way it is
&hell yea,katara did some serious waterbending in dis episode !!!!
Posted on March 5th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
#####:
Luvin dat episode!!!!
Um, peace, I think u went a tad overboard with your expalantion. Evry1s allowed there own opinion but ITS A CARTOON! dnt take it so seriously. And calling the Kataaang and the Maiko pairings evil is just plain silly.
Posted on March 7th, 2010 at 3:04 pm